jack lew was an integral part of it. he believes in a balanced budget, he's fiscally prudent, he should be confirmed. i like him, i think he's the last guy. lori: matt, i'll give you the last word. >> you've got to be kidding me. a wall street guy? [laughter] >> he's a good man. >> he can't balance the budget. >> yes, he can. >> he's just going to spend. i'm sorry, doug, i don't want to disparage -- lori: all right, it's just getting interesting. sorry, we're out of time. thanks so much. and thank you for joining me. i'm lori rothman sitting in for lou dobbs tonight. catch me each day on ♪ gerri: hello, everybody. i'm gerri willis. our video games -- are video games to blame for gun violence in this country? vice-president continuing his week-on meetings at the white house seeking ways to reduce gun violence in this country following last month's massacre in newtown, conn. today it was the video-game industry's turn. in those talks were publishers of some of the most violent games out there including electronic arts, a